Conscious*

same

With that logic there still leaves a possibility of a God existing. Also, it doesn't have to mean that the creator was created. There was fault in the "Believer's" first statement because it can lead to conclusion of a paradox like the Challenger explained. A better statement would be "The creator is infinite and all else was created by it". So it's arguable that the Creator could have came from nothing because "...otherwise there would still be nothing". This isn't really my actual take on it but my explanation based on your terms.

Exactly. You totally got it. I've heard people say the first statement. It's illogical, and I showed why. My other post about something from nothing doesn't say there's no god, but if there is, as you read between the lines, it would have to come from nothing. Also unwritten there, but hopefully what a reader might be lead to consider, is the next step, which is to realize that if a god can come from nothing, then it should be even easier for the universe, which is presumably less complex than a god would be, to have come from nothing, making a god unnecessary to produce the universe. If a god can come from nothing, certainly, a universe can. Other suggestions simply beg the question, such as, "Something made god." (Where did the thing that made god come from?) "God was always here." (How?) I can't accept "always here" for anything. It's unimaginable. I can imagine always nothing, but it's apparent always nothing isn't what happened.

Or some being exists beyond our understanding of existence because this being doesn't rely on resources for survival like we do. So, this being decided to create other beings capable of thought and the reason we disbelieve in this higher being is because there's not a living thing that we are aware of that isn't reliant on some other substance (we generally don't believe in somethig that doesn't have any observable proof) and so this leaves answers on where the first molecules came about because surely something cannot come from nothing... ? o.0

It must be possible for something to come from nothing. Otherwise, there would still be nothing. http://www.wittyprofiles.com/q/7059092

With that logic there still leaves a possibility of a God existing. Also, it doesn't have to mean that the creator was created. There was fault in the "Believer's" first statement because it can lead to conclusion of a paradox like the Challenger explained. A better statement would be "The creator is infinite and all else was created by it". So it's arguable that the Creator could have came from nothing because "...otherwise there would still be nothing". This isn't really my actual take on it but my explanation based on your terms.

Exactly. You totally got it. I've heard people say the first statement. It's illogical, and I showed why. My other post about something from nothing doesn't say there's no god, but if there is, as you read between the lines, it would have to come from nothing. Also unwritten there, but hopefully what a reader might be lead to consider, is the next step, which is to realize that if a god can come from nothing, then it should be even easier for the universe, which is presumably less complex than a god would be, to have come from nothing, making a god unnecessary to produce the universe. If a god can come from nothing, certainly, a universe can. Other suggestions simply beg the question, such as, "Something made god." (Where did the thing that made god come from?) "God was always here." (How?) I can't accept "always here" for anything. It's unimaginable. I can imagine always nothing, but it's apparent always nothing isn't what happened.

It's all good! I feel as though adults think they can tell their children what to think, and how to feel. Or if their child has different views and perspectives from them, they freak out, and tell their kid that they're wrong. I just wish that in today's society people's opinions were respected no matter race, gender, religion, age, political party or success.

This is more acknowledging how pretentious older people are, and how many older people don't have the patience to consider younger people's thoughts, ideas, or perspectives. The experience I wrote this about is when an authority figure in my life did not respect my opinion because they had always been in a situation where they were always right, and they could always tell me what to do. It is sort of acknowledging almost a belittling situation that I feel is ongoing in my life.

It's all good! I feel as though adults think they can tell their children what to think, and how to feel. Or if their child has different views and perspectives from them, they freak out, and tell their kid that they're wrong. I just wish that in today's society people's opinions were respected no matter race, gender, religion, age, political party or success.

Thank you<3

Desi ;) I'll follow u :*

I know, it's tough. :/

So young one 5 boys and 1 girl

So, who's this Karen you keep talking about?

My younger sister Karen chidi

So young one 5 boys and 1 girl

ah... right. thanks. xD

i think i'm plenty experienced but here's to hoping i'll have some epiphany and change my mind.

you're lucky haha

ah... right. thanks. xD

i think i'm plenty experienced but here's to hoping i'll have some epiphany and change my mind.

There is actually a story behind this quote (sorry if that sounded rude, it was not meant to be)

I'm sorry? (like, what do you mean?)

There is actually a story behind this quote (sorry if that sounded rude, it was not meant to be)

But it says she was last seen 6 months ago, and this quote was made today. So I don't know

I am confused, too

Amen

Really???? Awww I wanna see well if I can

what, if no one is waiting for you?

Its more than a good Thing its majestic divine it's perfection!
Why?

Really???? Awww I wanna see well if I can

if you are right, the sun sets. if you are wrong, the sun still sets. you can choose to let go of being right and see how you feel.