sugrfree

Status: Love more than you hate for the greater giant will prevail inside of you.
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Kinsman_Redeemer* 8 years ago on quote #6822897
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Just in case your not sure who it is with the name change, it's ezequiel- former username xmovinforwardx.
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Kinsman_Redeemer* 8 years ago on quote #6822897
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Hey there :), What's up? It's been a while again. I felt a little nostalgic and I thought my old witty profiles friend. Just wanted to catch up. If you do ever come back this way, feel free to email me, ezequiel_quinones@ymail.com . :) We could catch up :D
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Kinsman_Redeemer* 8 years ago on quote #6822897
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Hey sis! Long time huh? :)
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[deleted] 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Gosh! You kicked these people"s butts! They try to get on you for 'not know anyone who's had an abortion before' when you at least know two. And crap. And then the whole 'what about birth defects' thing. Bull crep on that.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Like I told several of them, they don't know me or anything (really) about me...
Eh, bunch of eugenics bull crap.
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BlackButterflies 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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i really wish that abortion and slavery had not just been compared.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Grow up. Or build a utopia, whichever suits you.
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greyskies 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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but its not that people are FOR abortion. we're PRO-CHOICE.
if you're comparing slavery to abortion, then isn't forcing a woman to carry a baby to term, and then give birth, against her will, a form of slavery?
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Actually, being pro-choice means you can be for abortion. Should I start calling you anti-life'rs because you believe in the violent process of abortion?
No. Do you see me forcing women to carry "unwanted" children? Did not think so.
It's a choice, you're right. I stated my opinion. This is how I feel.

Tell me when you find a dead baby who's glad they're mommy didn't want them and that they were unwanted.
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greyskies 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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That's sort of a ridiculous argument.
a) No abortion IS forcing women to carry children that they don't want.
b) Tell me when you find someone who committed suicide who isn't glad they did it. Find a murder victim who isn't glad they got murdered.
And I never said that you couldn't have an opinion, nor that your opinion was wrong. I merely expressed my own opinion in response to yours.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Nobody is forced to do anything. Even if they have a gun pointed at the back of their head. They would still have a choice.

No child is unwanted.
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Primadonna* 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Did you just compare abortion to slavery?
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Sue me. It's my opinion. Both are social injustices. Goodbye.
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Primadonna* 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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You know what else is a social injustice? Sexism, I don't see any quotes AGAINST it. I hope you also know that telling a woman what she can and cannot do to her body is sexism.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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And if you have such a problem with sexism, then YOU post quotes about it.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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I, in fact, did NOT tell anyone what they can and cannot do. I made a simple comparison.
I am completely against sexism. Men and women are equal and I don't think jokes that either sexes are stupid are funny.

Main Entry: ·ism Pronunciation: \sek-si-zm\Function: noun Etymology: 1 + -ism (as in ) Date: 1968 1 : prejudice or discrimination based on ; especially : discrimination against women 2 : behavior, conditions, or attitudes that foster stereotypes of social roles based on .


It obviously says nothing about telling a woman what she can and cannot do with her baby. How about the fact that I do not want to support abotion yet my family's taxes go to pay for abortion? that's prejudice. And a form of sexism, since it places more focus on women than men. That's sexism for ya.
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Primadonna* 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Well, since men cannot get pregnant, what do you suggest we do for them?And anyway, your opinion isn't going to affect the fact that abortion is very much legal in India.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Quit making me pay for legal abortions, how about that?
Just because things are legal doesn't mean I have to agree with them.

And, you know, my opinion does affect you, because Indiana also has the largest concentration of slavery in all it's forms.
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Primadonna* 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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INDIA the country in south east asia. That's where i live. Women are welcome to get an abortion here. They pay for it by themselves though, and henceforth, the indian government won't ban abortion because of your opinion because over here, we believe that you can do what you want, as long as its not against the constitution. If you had modified your arguement it might've worked, you see, people will get abortions whether you like it or not. Over here, the government has made -selective abortions illegal and akin to murder, cutting the amount of abortions done in half.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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i meant India.

Yeah, it's true, but I don't really want to pay for it. And I do not have to agree with it either.
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Primadonna* 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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I'm not saying you need to. I'm saying its not wrong.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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So just leave it alone. I should be allowed to post a quote on *my* profile without having someone beat me over the head about it.for weeks.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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*my

And we won't always agree. We don't all have the same thoughts nor god nor religion nor doctrines.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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& that's where yours and my opinion differe. You didn't have to comment on this quote, yet you did, and now however many messages later, we've reached no agreement. Your point? I have no idea. But it's wasting y time. (And I'm sure yours.) Goodbye.
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DividedByZero 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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And?
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trytounderstandme143 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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You're so inconsiderate. Anyways abortion is pain free for the fetus. In almost every abortion the "baby" is barley formed. And some people have to get an abortion. You clearly no nothing of it, just you probably read and watched a couple videos and things doesn't mean you no everything about it so just stop.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Right, because you've known me all my life and can judge me even though you know zilch about me?

I know lots of things. And I don't have to tell you all of them to prove it. I honestly do not care what you have to say. A baby's heart beats after 15-18 days, I believe. When someone dies, their heart stops and they're declared dead, right? So what if it is it's heart beats? It's alive, right?

I have only watch two videos on abortion in my entire lifespan. Congratulations for doing a detailed essay on my life.
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trytounderstandme143 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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You're right I don't know you but what I do know about you is you seriously know nothing about abortion. What you just said is completely incorrect
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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I know almost everything there is to know about abotion. The ways it is done, the stats, the ways women are negatively affected, and all sorts of things. You just said you didn't know me, so how could you know what I know?

A baby's heart begins to beat 18 days from conception, and by 21 days the heart is pumping blood through a closed circulatory system.

It is correct. Read it again.


And if I don't feel your heart beating, or anyone's heart, I can only assume that they are dead or have a very faint pulse that I cannot feel.
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trytounderstandme143 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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You are so incredibly wrong that is making me laugh, I doubt you know anyone who has gotten an abortion, but I do and those people I know told me all about it, I know the true facts and you don't...Idiotic peasants these days.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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I am wrong? Tell me how.
Actually, I do, so don't make assumptions. It's "idiotic," as you might say.
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trytounderstandme143 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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You're so pathetic and hypocritical it's hilarious
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Anndddd, you still have yet to tell me HOW I am wrong.

I think we all can be hypocrites at times. To think that you'll never be one, is, just prideful. We all fall short. I intend on not being hypocritical and I don't get how I'm appearing hypocritical to you. It would seem to me that you have nooo idea what you're talking about even though you claim to. And, I'm not pathetic. I just examined both sides of the argument (like an "open-minded" person" would and made what I feel like to be the correct opinion.
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SweetieXoX27 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Preach it sister! :)
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trytounderstandme143 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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thank you c:
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trytounderstandme143 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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"When a child is aborted.


That child is not sad.
That child is not angry.
That child is not wondering what kind of life he could have lived.
That child does not think, “Mother, why did you not love me?”
That child is not thinking at all.


The only people it immediately affects, are the parents.
It’s their decision, no one else’s.
Not the government. Not yours.
And not your God’s."
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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I'm sure you know exactly what the baby wants...
Pardon me for having an opinion other than yours.

It is their decision. But I also have an opinion on it just as you clearly do even though I doubt you've ever been faced with abortion before.
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trytounderstandme143 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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You're correct but I know people who have. And you know what you're opinion doesn't make sense. The baby it's even obligated to think. So of course I don't know what it wants. Know one does. In fact it doesn't even realized as a fetus if it's actually alive or dead
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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It does make sense.

Given a choice, I'm sure it would want to live. A child with a gun pointed at their head obviously does not want to die. If you were on a comatose state, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want me to rip your limps off you and bury you alive.
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trytounderstandme143 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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You really don't understand anything do you. There is no obvious maybe the child wants to die. Maybe it was right. And the fetus isn't grown. It's not even fully developed, it completely different then being grown up now, but you being unintelligent clearly do not see the difference
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Well, no one gives it a chance.
As you said youreself, you don't know me therefore you cannot make the assumption that I am unintelligent.
It has a heartbeat at 15-18 days.
When babies are aborted, abortionists are supposed to find the spinal cord, and some major bones. (The ones that are performed in clinic, anyways.)

Yeah, you're right, it's not fully developed, but that's because people don't give it a chance to develop and grow.

If you don't think it's a baby in the first trimester (or whatever trimester), then when does it "officially become a baby?"
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trytounderstandme143 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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You are wrong once again, I can make that assumption. The child can't be given a chance for one. It's only the parents choice though. Also, I believe the fetus become an official baby when it is fully devevloped
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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That's right, because no one gives it a chance.

So, moments before birth? Even though it has a beating heart? Fingerprints at 18 weeks? A spinal cord? A nose, and toes?
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AlwaysxAxDreamer 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Slavery and abortion are two different things, just like abortion and murder are two different things.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Both are social injustices.
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AlwaysxAxDreamer 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Slavery is an injustice, abortion is a woman's choice and right
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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*ignored
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Okay, what if the child is a girl? What about her rights? Are her inalienable rights denied? Is the fact that she IS created equal ignoed when she is aborted?
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AlwaysxAxDreamer 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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*fetus. It has as much awareness that its being aborted as a dormant appendix would
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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*babies can feel pain.
And you didn't answer my questions.

How would you like to be denied access to medical supplies in a war? Been told that, "You're not an adult, so you aren't acceptable?" That's what abortion is, pretty much.

If it's a "fetus", tell me when it "officially becomes a baby?"
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AlwaysxAxDreamer 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Fetus. Babies that are outside the womb can certainly feel pain, but a fetus does not. And I'm just laughing at the fact that you're trying to compare aborting a fetus to access to medical supplies. And a fetus is a baby once out of the womb, or to be specific, once you reach 4 or 5 months of pregnancy. If you would like to enlighten yourself instead of making empty statements, google is your buddy in that regard.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Actually, have you ever watched a video of an abortion happening? The baby is not easily pulled out. It screams and kicks.

so, if a baby dies (a fullgrown baby, or even one with only the major bones in place) and it is stillborn, what is it when it comes out? Do you still believe that though it has a beating heart at 15-18 days, it isn't alive?
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AlwaysxAxDreamer 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Yes, I have watched abortion videos. I have also done strenuous research I abortion in the past. A properly performed abortion does not involve a screaming or "kicking" fetus. Proper abortion doctors take careful measures before hand so that even if the fetus could "scream and kick" it wouldn't. However, it is underdeveloped and cannot do so. By the time they are able to "scream and kick" it would be too late to get an abortion. And I did not say it wasn't alive, you seem to have difficulties when it comes to reading opposing arguments, because you are attempting to put my words in my mouth.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Abortion causes pain whether it be for mother, infant, or both.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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So, you think fetuses are alive? Because it seems you refuse to call it a baby. If you believed it was alive, wouldn't you call it a baby? Because that's what people call it once it is outside the womb.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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*me
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Tell me when you find someone who loves slavery and is a slave. Tell me when you find an unborn baby who wouldn't love to live.

Ahhh, well, I think your obvious opinion is inconsiderate. Cry my a river.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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I am not , actually. My relatives are, but I, on the other hand, am not. I don't know where you got that idea from.

I disagree. They're both social issues that are very serious. Millions were killed in slavery (whether it be that of Jews, African Americans, Caucasians, etc.) Millions are affected by abortions.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Of course, they both might not be equal to you since we both see things from different perspectives.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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I believe we both can agree that things like the holocaust are serious. That was slavery. Abortion is murder. Have you ever watched a video of a child being aborted? You might want to. They're both serious issues.
Many people are still slaves today in America and other countries. It didn't end.

Many people who have had abortions were pressured. Not to mention later on in life when women who've had abortions have a higher risk of breast cancer, which is painful, I would think, not to mention all the other health symptons that follow. You can't undo abortion.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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*survivor of r-ape.

Most abortions are painful as well. By week eight, all major "fetus" systems are in place. To tell a pregnant woman that a few hours or a day in the hospital or clinic will rid her of all her problems and will send her out the door a free person is to forget the humanness of women who are now mothers. With many of the women who have had abortions, their "motherliness" is very much present even though the child is gone. Cont..
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Cell on Mars = life.
"Clump of cells" on Earth = apparently not life.

So, you agree with what Kermit Gosnell did, then? Because that's what abortion is.. babies can feel pain. As doctors, they have vowed to do no harm, yet they do harm anyways. Birth defects and such arguments are based on eugenics, which, since you're african american, also includes the support of murdering/preventing african american babies from being born. Eugenics also includes the sterilization of "undesirables" like people with birth defects, incurable diseases, and so forth. It is never safe to abort. And as for the back alley argument, stats on those were actually faked. And nail salons have more regulations than abortion clinics. Women have died from abortions, as have newborn babies. Take Gosnell's clinic. I'm sure his isn't the only one. At current rates, nearly one-third of American women will have an abortion. One per cent (of aborting women) reported that they were the survivors of . Only 12% of women included a physical problem with their health among reasons for having an abortion. Most abortions in the USA are provided in freestanding clinics; in 2005, only 5% occurred in hospitals, down from 22% in 1980, and only 2% took place in physician's offices. Cont...
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[deleted] 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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YOU GO SISTER! (I so wanna hug you right now)
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Haha. :D
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[deleted] 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Yep, you know you love me chickadee ;P
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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I do so love you, sister. :D
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[deleted] 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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I love you too girl :D You're the best sister I could ever ask for!
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Aww. ^.^ Thank you! You're the perfect best sister I could ever want.
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[deleted] 1 decade ago on quote #6794080
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Pshaw, vatever.
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crazylifelover 1 decade ago on quote #6731791
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love this.
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Worthless* 1 decade ago on quote #6724732
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Only 5 favs? Whaaaat? .__.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6724732
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Thanks fo faving it. :D
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Worthless* 1 decade ago on quote #6724732
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No problemo. I really liked the quote. 8D
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1Derland 1 decade ago on quote #6724732
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If this doesn't make the top quotes, I'm staging a mutiny.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6724732
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Wow. Well, thanks. It probably won't, being as its not a "pretty quote" but I'm fine with that. Thanks for the compliment!
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6712577
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OHMYGOSH, YOU LOVE THEM TOO?!? Asdfghjkl, let me give you an awesome hug!!!
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I LOVE all of POD's stuff!! i have three of their CDs :)
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6712577
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Haha, I love a lot of it. I know, they're so awesome. I'd love to see them live.
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barakat* 1 decade ago on quote #6708333
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I thinks it's unfair to the people who aren't in a certain religion, though. Aside from the separation of church and state, public schools being included as part of the state, maybe consider the minorities? Maybe someone is Muslim and doesn't believe in a certain prayer, or someone is Satanic (which is completely their right), or an atheist, or another religion. It isn't fair that they should have to do the prayer, or even have to sit through it. You wanna pray? Do it before school, or do a silent prayer to yourself.

Anyway, a prayer in a classroom will not stop a student from doing whatever they want in a bedroom, or lower abortion rates, or SAT scores (which I personally think is the worst example, sorry.) It would be the same as doing a prayer every night before sleep, or when you wake up. It wouldn't change anything in the schools. Have you ever seen the movie Easy A? A girl in the movie was talking about her boyfriend who was 20 (I think) and still repeating high school, because "if God wanted him to pass he would have given him the answers [on the test]." I realize that was just Hollywood being annoying, but it is on a smaller level, true. Kids have gotten dumber just because they have, with all these new electronic distractions and all. It's not because we don't ask the Lord to give us the wisdom to learn in school today, or whatever. (I don't know how prayers go, I don't believe in God nor religion.)

I don't mean to be rude, but I've heard this argument many times, and although Christianity is a largely dominant religion, it's still a matter of equality.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6708333
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Life isn't fair and I doubt it ever will be.
I'm just saying, these are the statistics.
If a teacher wants to pray with her class, I would think she/he has a right to do so.
The statistics speak for themselves. It's my opinion and I put it out there not to be changed, but to be heard.
With or without God, people can do things, but before the 60s, when God was allowed in schools, things weren't as bad as they are now (not that things have ever really been that great, but this is what we deal with today.)
Yes. Equality for a student to lead prayer if they wish.
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FlorenceSong 1 decade ago on quote #6708333
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The statistics posted above lack citation. I have searched this and found it's source page, and the source page as well lacks citation for statistics. You can't determining the validity of the statistics.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6708333
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Well, if you read the book with the statistics, you've got the sources. Plain and simple. I believe it's "To Pray Or Not To Pray." Can't remember the author.
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FlorenceSong 1 decade ago on quote #6708333
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I think there are many other variables to be considered than just the removal of prayer and bible instruction from school.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6708333
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Such as? Lotsa things happened in the sixties. Particularly all not good for the USA imo.
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FlorenceSong 1 decade ago on quote #6708333
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School is only an educational institution. Prayer/bible instruction can give rise to feelings of religious discrimination and inequality in the minds of children. Students are exposed to religious differences between each other for no reason.
Prayer in school is already legal. Students are already allowed to pray on a voluntary basis (in a non-disruptive way) so formal school prayer is unnecessary.
School prayer may lead to intolerance. Public prayer will highlight religious differences of which students may have been unaware. Those students who abstain from school prayer ostracized.
The public school system is created for all students and supported by all taxpayers. It should therefore remain neutral on religious issues over which students and taxpayers will differ.

Imagine if you had to sit in a class your of all/mostly muslin/atheist/other and listen to them preach their views when you obviously think differently, how do you think other students would react to you knowing that you believe very differently from them.

The world is a different place than it was in the 50s.
Yes, lotsa things happened in the 60s. LOTS of good(not all but alot). Civil rights, sexual revolution, women's liberation, separation of church and state, legalization of homosexualty.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6708333
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I actually have Muslim friends, and have learned about Islam/other religions. It's nice to know that I'm confident in my religion by hearing about their religions as well.
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FlorenceSong 1 decade ago on quote #6708333
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It's not about confidence in your own religion. The fact is children are cruel. And religion is a hard topic for even adults to get along while discussing. If every one is siting in bible in instruction or praying and there is one kid siting out how do you think children will react to that. Religious bullying is already a problem in schools. I know I went through it.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6708333
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Children wouldn't be so cruel if they were taught to treat each other with respect and actually had parents who taught them better.
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FlorenceSong 1 decade ago on quote #6708333
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This about prayer/bible instruction in schools not parents. And religious does not always make a moral person. If read crime statics you would see that.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6708333
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Parents live with their kids (usually.) And it's expected that they'll turn out somewhat like them in one way or another.

You're right. It doesn't. I mean, look at radical Islamists, sodomized people and murdering gay people even thought they've likely participated in some homosexual activity themselves.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6708333
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*though

I'm just saying, if a teacher want to pray with her class, she should be able to do it.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6708333
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Do you honestly think it's a coincidence that all these things skyrocketed in the sixties, when prayer was taken out of school? Do you honestly believe that? The statistics are there.
Women's liberation? What were they liberated from? And sexual revolution, as we can see in the statistics above, has gotten us into tons of STDs, etc.
Here is a quote from the Northwest Ordinance: "Article 3: Religion, morality, and knowledge being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged."
The First Amendment says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
*Pregnancies in Teen Aged Girls - By 1994 had gone up 400%-Highest rate of teen aged motherhood in the West. *Sexually Transmitted Diseases - Cases of gonorrhea up almost 400% among students age 10 to 14. *Two Thirds of teenage boys say they've had . By the time they are 18 they've had on average, 5 partners. *Rapes committed by 13-14 year old boys increased 186%

They speak for themselves.
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FlorenceSong 1 decade ago on quote #6708333
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There are MANY more factors than just prayer. The women's liberation movement was the second wave of feminism. If you don't know, you need to really read about how sexist the 50s and 60s were, which is why women had to fight for equality. Society was still VERY sexist toward women still. As for the sexual revolution, this would usally be due to improper teaching of sexual education, in particular about proper protection via condoms and contraception. Such policies are usually taught by "abstinence only" curriculums which are generally used in the more religious areas.
ALL statistics of areas which teach "abstinence only" show an INCREASE in pregnancy and STDs as compared to areas which teach a full education course, it should be concluded lack of education is the factor, not a lack of prayer. Divorce rates are HIGHEST among born again christians and jews, and LOWEST among atheists/agnostics. If lack of prayer in school is a factor, it's a good thing for divorce rates.
Under "C. Education"
This entire section says nothing about the increased cuts for public education and uses only the SAT as the guage. As the SAT is generally used on the coasts while the ACT is used throughout the middle of the USA, including most of the Bible Belt.
Also surprising is that this test was first used 1959, just a few years before the afformentioned decrease in SAT scores.

It also neglects to mention that throughout the 50s, 60s, and 70s, the test was not standardized. Time periods for sections constantly changed as well as what the sections tested. Since the tests changed, one can not expect the average scores to remain the same under these conditions.

Under "D. The Nation"
1.) This only shows an increase in crime, not who perpetrated the crime. As the Christian population today is 75% of the general population and also 75% of the prison population, but athests are 15% of the general population and only .02% of the prison population, it seem that not praying would make you less likely to commit crimes.
2.) Being that illegal drugs are mostly come from imports, we can safetly conclude that lack of prayer in school is not a cause for increased drug activity.
3.) The increase in abortion may also be attributed to an increase in pregnancies caused by lack of education and a professed dislike of protection by the Pope. If we wish a decrease in abortions, we should stop teaching religious policies of "abstinence only" and provide real information about protection and contraception.

In addition, many abortions are only done due to the mother being at risk to carry the child past where the fetus could be removed into ICU, let alone to carry the child to term. It has nothing to do with any theological point of view, but only on what is best to keep the mother alive.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6708333
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Induced abortions usually result from unintended pregnancies, which often occur despite the use of contraception (CDC).

54% of women having abortions used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant. Among those women, 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users reported using the methods inconsistently, while 13% of pill users and 14% of condom users reported correct use (AGI).

8% of women having abortions have never used a method of birth control (AGI).

9 in 10 women at risk of unintended pregnancy are using a contraceptive method (AGI).

Oral contraceptives, the most widely used reversible method of contraception, carry failure rates of 6 to 8% in actual practice (NAF).

Condom use confers protection against STIs, but it does not provide top-tier protection from pregnancy because of breakage, slippage, inconsistent use, and low continuation rates (NAF).
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6708333
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Honestly, I believe that women's "liberation" is a big joke. Nowadays, women are bound by society's norms for fashion, what beauty is "supposed to look like," and many other lies that have been planted in society. Not to mention the fact that women that back then, curviness was actually something to go after, instead of the stick thin trend circulating right now.eating disorders have risen since that time. 80% of women don't feel beautiful now. There are more beauty products now then there were in the 1960s. Now, if you're not sexy, then you're not normal, in media terms.

I think society tends to be more sexist to MEN. A majority of America's women treat men like dogs, acting like they're idiots. In fact, a lot of the men I know just take it. I don't see any "Men's Liberation" groups out there. Women should just stand up for themselves and not worry about making laws and such that implements their so called "bondage."

Actually, I'm pretty sure the USA spends more money now on education, than it did back then. With all the yoga classes, spiritual classes (outside of christianity of course) , sports, etc. You get the picture.

Condoms and contraception do not stop STDs nor are a sure way to prevent pregnancies. They are never guaranteed. What's improper about teaching is that most teachers don't mention that these are positively going to protect anything.

Then, if the tests changed, wouldn't you think we'd be getting better stats? Because usually, when someone changes public education, we should be getting better grades, NOT lower.

Probably about half of the Christian population is lying about their beliefs. Just because one attends church and listens to christian music, does not mean they are saved.

Yes, but who exactly is getting into jail? Is it the "Christians?" I honestly doubt it's more than ten percent.

What does imports have to do with that? It doesn't matter where they come from. It's the fact that our drug rates are higher than they've ever been.

As I said before, protection is not guaranteed. It might work, it might not. There's no definite. People put too much stock in a pope. He's not God, therefore I do not have to heed his every word. He made his own grave with that one.

I disagree. People who are taught the real truth (that contraceptives and condoms don't always do the job and that STDs can kill and make you sterile). It doesn't have to be "religious" or not. It just has to be the truth.

Only 12% of women included a physical problem with their health among reasons for having an abortion (NAF).
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RemainsOfTheB 1 decade ago on quote #6692790
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A penguin on drugs... you made my day.
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sugrfree 1 decade ago on quote #6692790
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HAHAHA! My pleasure.
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